The Eloquent Garden

The garden you create or dream of creating is a mirror of yourself

About Lilith and The Eloquent Garden

The alter-ego of Jan Roz, I am a therapeutic gardener, horticulturalist and garden designer. I am a dancer of rocknroll, writer, scrabble player, recipe inventor, lover of idle and not so idle chat.

Your garden eloquently reflects yourself, your needs, wishes, deep desires, dreams. I use gardening and nature-related activities to address the needs of people I work with. These can be physical, social, emotional or developmental needs. Therapeutic gardening can be creative, active, effective, surprising, subversive, fun, even hilarious. I use knowledge from horticulture, garden history and philosophy, plant folklore, literature and personal experience.

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47 responses to “About Lilith and The Eloquent Garden

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  2. Sarah Potter Writes November 2, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    It seems we have a great deal in common, Lilith: gardens, therapy (once worked in psychiatry, but have shifted towards alternative treatments), also I’m an inventor of recipes and a scrabble enthusiast!

    • Lilith November 3, 2014 at 7:38 am

      Gosh! How wonderful to meet you. Tell me you are planning a trip to Albania and that would be just amazing! And one of my majors was Psychology, so Hort Therapy with that as an influence. . Am about to go out for the day but will be reading all of your blogs on weekend, if not before..

      • Sarah Potter Writes November 4, 2014 at 7:34 am

        Well, I wasn’t planning a trip anywhere as I have rather too many commitments at home to travel very much, but that’s the beauty of the blogging community — meeting like-minded people from around the world. I look forward to learning more about you and your country from your posts.

    • Lilith November 3, 2014 at 7:43 am

      Gosh and you can sing! that’s impressive, I always wish I could, but sadly not to be. Altho my Daughter (filmmaker one of my blog) has a lovely voice. I also love Sc Fiction/speculative Fiction…what’s your FAv author/books? I like Perdido Street Station, Love HAruki MUrakami, Neil GAiman, Homeland,. HAve you written any books that I could read, and where could i get?

      • Sarah Potter Writes November 4, 2014 at 7:48 am

        The singing I still do, but am having to get used to my previously high soprano voice turning into a mezzo/contralto voice as I get older. I haven’t done any solo concerts for a while but sing in two choirs, as well as teaching a small group of children to sing.

        I love Neil Gaiman, too. Haven’t read any Haruki Murakami yet, but too many people have recommended him for me to ignore their promptings. Homeland (the TV Series, I assume you mean) — I’m addicted to it and just finished watching an episode about half-an-hour ago.

        I’ve written novels, but nothing published yet. Am trying to go down the traditional route with my latest novel, sending it out to agents. No takers yet, although lots of lovely feedback praising the writing but turning it down as I’m crossing genres and it doesn’t fit comfortably into one category. Neither does Neil Gaiman’s writing, so I hold his success in mind to keep me sane during the submission process. Meanwhile, I’m considering self-publishing one of my earlier novels as an experiment, although am not too happy to go down this route.

  3. AnnetteM November 1, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    Hi Lilith,
    Thanks for following my blog. I visited yours briefly and I hope to have time to explore further as it looks really interesting. I like the sound of horticultural therapy. I wonder if they do that here in the UK – it would be a good thing to get involved in. By the way you were my 100th WordPress follower!!! I hoped for a trophy – but alas!

    • lilith November 2, 2014 at 10:18 am

      Thanks AnnetteM, i love it you have gardened since you were 7! Yes have a full read of my blog..esp the bit about the duel (tights obligatory) Antonio Banderas Hugh Jackman and famous friends for Party Perks
      ..

  4. Juliane February 27, 2014 at 8:15 am

    Hi Lilith,
    I haven’t had much of a garden lately so have been helping out at my local community garden. However now I have a new job with a large veggie garden. The trees near the community centre were all chopped down so I was in grief going there anyway.
    Regards
    Juliane

  5. Uncle Spike February 27, 2014 at 5:18 am

    A Spikey now, eh Jan? – that growing clan of folk known to be followers of Uncle Spike 🙂

    Thank you… I really appreciate that as I for one, know how many interesting and entertaining blogs are out there.

    My aim is to deliver an eclectic offering of posts, from my ‘point n shoot’ attempts at photography, to the sharing of my travel adventures since the 70′s, as well as day to day happenings on the farm. Oh, plus a few observations on life as I see it. Of course, if you have any suggestions for me, I’d love to hear from you, serious.

    In return, I promise not to be overbearing with perhaps 2-3 posts a day tops. But if you are at a loose end one day, maybe you’ll enjoy trawling through some of my older stuff too. I have added plenty of categories to help in said digging process.

    Thanks again for your vote of confidence, and hope you have a great day…

    UNCLE SPIKE

    • Lilith February 28, 2014 at 2:22 pm

      Hello from your newest reader..i came across your blog through an unusual follow from a group of “pretty Girls” at which I at first thought..ohoh. But looked all they follow and found they have an interesting mix there .
      I read some of your blogs and like what I read so here I am!
      Thanks for taking the time to send me a message. I haven’t blogged much for a while (family matters ) so hopefully our group of bloghoppers will inspire us all and keep us blogging more consistently.
      Warm regards and looking fwd to reading more of yours,
      JAn

  6. Roy Osborne June 24, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Hello Jan

    I am exploring further the use of the Plectranthus as a brush turkey repellant. We are in a leafy Brisbane suburb and these birds are increasing in numbers by the year. EVERY DAY I have to attend to damage done in our garden. I have tried various things like dog and horse urine as a repellant, baiting a trap with alcohol-soaked fruit, chasing the brutes physically, putting up chicken wire barricades, but NOTHING has helped. I did use branches of another related plant (Iboza) in the same family (Lamiaceae) last week and it did seem to have a short term effect while the stuff was fresh. Perhaps Plectranthus will solve all.

    • Chris November 10, 2012 at 9:36 am

      Just paid good money to relocate a bush turkey (legally) after he tried to build a mound twice. After our success, the next day another turkey applied for the position. Does Plectranthus work.?

      • Roy November 10, 2012 at 10:41 am

        Chris: the confounded things are almost impossible to control. I’m still trying to cultivate a meaningful stock of Plectranthus; obvioiusly one small plant will do nothing. The ONLY people immune from the wretched birds are those with large dogs.

  7. Kevin May 10, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    H Lilith,
    I just received an email re: a posting of “horrible things.” Please know that I would never do such a thing — and I do not believe that I was hacked. Sorry to address this here, but this is the only legitimate way I know of to contact you.

  8. Kevin May 10, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Hi Lilith,
    I just received an email, I think from you, re: a posting about “horrible things.” I would never do such a thing, and as far as I know, I have not been hacked. Sorry to use this platform, but this is the only legitimate way I know of contacting you. It’s a mystery.

  9. redwheelbarrow1957 April 12, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    Thanks for following the blog, I hope you enjoy the work.

  10. Fourth Generation Farm Wife February 20, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    Lilith,
    Thanks for stopping by my blog. I very much enjoy your content and can’t wait to read more. I am now an eloquent garden follower!

  11. Kevin October 9, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    Hi Jan,
    First, thank you for your kind words each time you view my gardening blog, Nitty Gritty Dirt Man. Second, I am intrigued by your work in therapeutic gardening. By day, I am a high school social worker and I often think what the next chapter in my life will be. I know it has to involve gardening — and lately I have been toying with the idea of horticultural therapy. Seems like it combines the best of both of my worlds.

    • Lilith December 14, 2011 at 8:15 pm

      HI Kevin, I have just ealised that I didnt reply to your comment re Hort Therapy…so sorry. Have been very busy moving, then suddenly as you will see from my new blog, my little cat, Natasha died, and it has thrown me.
      Yes..HT with children and teenagers can be great fun and a fabulus way for them to learn, have fun, and fun as well as effective. for you, too. I worked for a time in a women’s refuge from domestic violence and there were many traumatised kids in refuge, So HT was a very welcome way for them to have fun wih their mothers, and address the needs of all the family with HT programs. Do be in touch re HT if you like to..
      Janny

  12. Steve Schwartzman August 22, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Thanks for liking my posts about the prickly pear cactus we have here in central Texas. We also have a delicate white flower known as a rain-lily, but for you today I’ll call it the rain-Lilith:

    http://portraitsofwildflowers.wordpress.com/2011/06/29/snow-white/

  13. Juliane Lazarus August 10, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Yes there is no need for me to be judgemental about my own garden. You are right. The front garden is no maintenance. It self waters and has asian vegetables and asian coriander growing in it. It is handy when we need something green to go into the dinner. The side garden is herbs. It could do with a little TLC especially since my friend in advertently whipper snippered all the origano. The tomatoes I planted at a friend’s house are growing well because I planted them near the galvanised iron and put a rock next to them. My friend thought I was onto something and added two more rocks. She has been watering them as well as the lettuce and beans I planted there. (because they are hers) However she is good at sharing the produce and I came home with a large bunch of silver beet. I must admit I do enjoy planting things in her garden when she is not home and having her find them later.

    • Lilith August 10, 2011 at 1:32 pm

      Haha, I like that! You are kind of a gardening fairy, mysterious plants arrive courtesy of you! What fun! And what an interesting story, too.

      I can give you some 5 herb, if you would like that. ….I am out and about on weekend looking at houses, cud meet somewhere, library, maybe? will email you via yr email , or you email me…..

      • Juliane Lazarus May 10, 2012 at 8:32 pm

        Hi Lilith,
        I have moved again and now have my garden in pots. A bush turkey comes to visit. I gave a friend some oregano awhile ago and now when I haven’t any, she has given me back a big clump. I am enjoying splitting plants and sharing. Recently I was given a large amount of pots from the nearest primary school. They had plenty of excess ones to share. Tonight we ate pesto made from the basil I planted on a friends farm. It is satisfying especially while my life is a bit preoccupied with a troubled teenager and a car which needs a new head gasket.
        At least it doesn’t cost anything to share plants. This web site reminds me of having like-minded gardening friends. Thank you Jan.

  14. Juliane Lazarus August 10, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Hi Lilith,
    I asked my neighbour for some 5 spice but she said hers is not doing well at the moment.
    I know there is some sitting outside a fish shop in Wavell Heights but I am sure if I wait patiently it will arrive in abundance at the right moment. I took some cow manure down to the school garden and things are growing well because of last week’s rain. It is nearly time for me to divide my chive clumps.

  15. Juliane Lazarus July 27, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Hi Jan,
    I found the link for gardening for seniors. http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Gardening_for_seniors
    I think that this is all the more relevant now that it has been found that diabetes can be prevented by sleep and exercise. Gardening is a lovely way to exercise without noticing.
    It is time that I divide my chives before the bush turkeys scrape them into the mound. Pumpkin scones… are

    • Lilith August 7, 2011 at 5:04 pm

      Hi Julianne, thanks for the gardening link for seniors..
      yes indeed gardening is a great exercise…am including some interesting exercises in my next blog.

      Hmm i find that bush turkeys stay right away from anywhere that 5-herb is planted (plectranthus ambonicus, thanks to @microgardener for this name)…so do possums…
      this online gardeny world is so much fun and so interesting…..

      • microgardener August 7, 2011 at 6:01 pm

        I’m interested to know what other creatures everyone has to deal with in their gardens besides turkeys? Feathered, fur, flying, slimy etc and any personal favourite remedies.

        • Lilith August 10, 2011 at 1:23 pm

          Hi microgardener,
          I also found that possums don’t like 5-herb (mother of herb , ) an dleave any herbs veges alone that hav ethis planted are sprinkled around them. And that coffee grounds sprinkled around strawberries and in a trench around garden deter slugs snails….

          As for the birds…a net over fruit can work….

  16. Hazel July 24, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    I just found your blog through Blotanical. I love the post about your elderly friend/client and you thoughts about her and gardening. Gardening is theraputic…no arguments here. I am going to enjoy popping to your blog from time to time.

  17. Juliane Lazarus July 17, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    Hi Jan,
    The bush turkeys are cleaning up my back garden at the moment. I named my daughter after a flower and a tea. She was called Jasmine because it was flowering at the time of her birth. Jasmine is a name from many cultures and so is my daughter. I think the exciting thing about gardening is the treasures that turn up when we spend time weeding or relocating plants. We just picked our bunch of bananas because the possums had started to help themselves too. I like your site and love the name.

    • jan July 17, 2011 at 7:02 pm

      Juliane, thank you 4 reading my blog..glad you like it…and he name name…i really like the name too, it toook me a long time to choose it.
      Thanks for telling me about Jasmine, such a gorgeous name..
      yes always treasures n the garden in so many ways…a flowe of adifferent shade, a plant growing well under another, insects, worms…so much fun!
      Oh yes the darn bush turkeys…nothing seems to deter them! yet I still believe there must be something!
      Another blog, soo, I promise..one is under way
      HAppy gardening,
      Jan

      • microgardener July 26, 2011 at 8:25 am

        Great to discover your blog too Jan. Will enjoy following your journey.
        As far as bush turkeys are concerned, we had a rogue one that caused havoc in our kitchen garden digging up my edibles and eating our duck food. No amount of shouting or chasing would get rid of it until we got what we affectionately now call, The Turkenator! She’s our 8 month old Australian Shepherd pup who is eager to please. One day I chased the turkey away and Chandy came along for the fun of it thinking it was a game. The next time, she got the idea that I really wanted the bird to go away so she was more enthusiastic and it flew up into a neighbour’s tree. The third occasion she spied it before I did and chased it away – it appeared to look surprised and then fearful as it seemed to instantly recall the recent experiences. Chandy had no intention of hurting the bird … she just has a desire to please her humans by encouraging it to disappear. I saw her chase it twice more, the last time it took one look at her and just flew away and we’ve never seen it since. Her job’s done … sorry I can’t loan The Turkenator but perhaps there’s another solution: try planting Mother of Herbs (Plectranthus amboinicus) through your garden – I’ve heard turkeys don’t like the strong scent. It’s known by many names including Queen of Herbs, Five in One Herb, Five Seasons Herb, All-herb, Country Borage, Indian Borage, Five Spice Herb, Chinese Three in One, Broad Leafed Thyme, Spanish Thyme, and Spanish Sage! If you can’t find it you could try Dog Bane (Plectranthus caninus) which belongs to the same family and helps repel dogs and cats from urinating around plants due to the strong smell. Good luck!

        • Lilith August 1, 2011 at 10:24 am

          Hi, thanks for all the names for 5-herb. Yes i have noticed that the bush turkeys leave garden beds alone where this herb is planted. Possums too, leave parsley etc alone when 5 herb planted. haha, love the Turkenator!

      • Juliane Lazarus July 27, 2011 at 8:57 am

        Hi Jan,
        I love watching the bush turkeys. I am still thinking about the truth of your statement that the garden you create is a mirror of yourself. It is beginning to make me feel a little uncomfortable because of the notion that the garden is only incidentally nurtured or watered. Although I do have plants at other people’s places too and they water them. In my new fantasy dream garden I live near a high school for my daughter. I run a recycling business and people come to work in their therapeutic garden plots out the back. There is a cafe nearby for people to buy coffees and healthy lun

        • Lilith August 7, 2011 at 5:38 pm

          Hi Julianne,
          Well Karl Jung took over 25 years to build his house, and this culminated in a garden, with a well, so he could be self-sufficient, so it all takes time! He said that everything we create, including our thoughts, reflects our selves -that we create, take our creation out into the world, work on it, then take back within ourselves for reflection, and that we are continually repeating the process. So our gardens being a creative exercise follow this pattern, (even the ones that are driven by fashion..this also is reflective of values and desires)
          That’s somehow interesting that you feel uncomfortable that your garden is only incidentally nurtured or watered.. do you think it needs more nurturing? or is it low maintenance?Some gardens like people can be low maintenance, cant they? Gosh and how is it I wonder, that some of your planrs are a others places and they look after them? That sounds like a story?

  18. jamie July 2, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    very good jan…jamie

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